The ruling sparked renewed outrage from some members of the public, prompting Chris Summerville, head of the Manitoba Schizophrenia Society, to conduct a 45-minute interview with Li last weekend with the hope of shedding light on his progress. DEFUND (ELEMENTS) OF THE POLICE BUT LET COPS BE COPS, BESIDE THE ROAD NEW BASED-ON-TRUE-CRIME SERIES BOOK #4, THE TRUE STORY ABOUT WHO REALLY STOLE JFKS BRAIN, WHY IT TAKES SO LONG TO MAKE A CORONAVIRUS VACCINE, WHY CASEY ANTHONY GOT AWAY WITH MURDERING HER DAUGHTER, FROM THE SHADOWS NEW CRIME BOOK RELEASE FROM GARRY RODGERS. WERE YOUA HUMAN BEINGDESIGNED BY A HIGHER INTELLIGENCE? markbonokoski@gmail.com Your Midday. Particularly psychiatric degrees. But it got even worse. Vince Li and the Greyhound Bus Murder (Bus 1170) - Eye Witness describes beheading (Interview) Serial Killer Minds 36.7K subscribers Subscribe 148 13K views 2 years ago On Greyhound 1170,. God made me do it, Li said. No one argued that. "I take my medication everyday. 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Vince Li knew exactly what he was doing and he remembered it. He smashed out a window and leaped to the ground meeting jolts from a Taser and teeth from a dog. The public is supposed to believe that forensic psychiatrists can walk on water, and are infallible in their diagnoses, even though the human brain is stuffed with the complexities of a 100-billion neurons, each with upwards of 100,000 synaptic connections that must line up precisely in order to avoid the prospect of short-circuiting. We have to acknowledge he is sick, not evil, which means he can't be locked up forever. August 5, 2008. Vince Li was undiagnosed before he beheaded Tim McLean on a Greyhound bus eight and a half years ago, meaning he has never had to voluntarily stick to a treatment plan. Keep us safe from guys on the bus like him. I was an evil son of an evil god. "He understands now that schizophrenia is a mental illness which plays tricks on the brain. Some havent recovered today. Will Baker, centre, formerly known as Vince Li, leaves the Law Courts building in Winnipeg, after his annual criminal code review board hearing with his lawyer, Alan Libman, right, Monday, February 6, 2017. Parents can often miss the first signs of schizophrenia because their adult children are living outside the home, but experts say treatment is usually more successful if started early. Vince Li, a personal trainer and mixed-martial artist, never imagined he'd get COVID-19. Enter your email address below and get your FREE eBook IN THE ATTIC A Psychological Thriller Based on a True Crime Story. Little kids cried as teens tried capturing it on phones. He also cut off his ear, nose, and tongue. Carefully, he looked at each passenger before reaching the second row from the rear. WAS AMANDA KNOX REALLY INNOCENT OF KILLING MEREDITH KERCHER? He legally changed his name to Will Baker and currently lives free. EpiPens dont work in space? The public discourse around the trial has been disheartening, although I do recognize that it largely stems from ignorance rather than malice. By June of 201015 months after Li was absolved by the criminal justice systemhe started supervised release. He has still been described as psychotic, but is on medication. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/vince-li-discharge-1.3977278. Police and emergency responders arrived in mass. He was quickly locked up in a secure hospital facility where monitoring and treatment commenced for an indefinite period. Tim McLean, 22. Records are sketchy about his mental assessments. Vince Li is not evil; he's sick. Untold time and money were spent in rehabilitating Vince Li. READ MORE: Vince Li approved to live at group home in Winnipeg He was found not criminally responsible for beheading Tim McLean on a Greyhound bus back in 2008. The police recovered most of McLean's remains, some of which were later found in Li's pockets. May 18, 2012 / 11:48 AM Editorial: With no conditions, Vince Li is a threat. "I'm not stigmatizing mental issues. Vince Li carried on. And its about proper public protection. Tim McLean, who was returning home from work, boarded a Greyhound bus. Vince Li, who beheaded a fellow passenger aboard a Greyhound bus in Manitoba nearly four years ago, believed he was chosen by God to save people from an alien attack. A man in a mask is now standing inches from your face, holding one gun against your body and pressing another into your hand. It is because of Lis ardent commitment to treating his illness that he has recently been granted an absolute discharge by the Manitoba Criminal Review Board, as of Feb. 10. It was at this time I interviewed Carol de Delley, McLeans mother, at her home on the outskirts of Winnipeg. In 1992, Li graduated from University of Wuhan Institute of Technology with a Bachelor of Science degree in Computers. This column is part of CBC'sOpinion section. These guys can get crazier than The Guy on the Greyhound Bus. DeDelley wants Li kept in a mental hospital permanently, but expects that he will gain more freedom every year until he is eventually released. There are many dangerous offenders warehoused in mental institutions. Will Baker, formerly known as Vince Weiguang Li, killed 22-year-old Tim McLean after hearing what he thought was "the voice of God". Closed Captioning and Described Video is available for many CBC shows offered on CBC Gem. THE CIRCUS TRIAL OF THE EARLY 20TH CENTURY THE HALL-MILLS MURDERS, KILL DOZER MARV HEEMEYERS ATTACK ON A SMALL COLORADO TOWN. Arm-chair Swat members later crucified police for not shooting Li to stop his butchering rampage but the police held at bay. Famous killers like Gacy and Bianchi were masterful manipulators. Some mental health advocates (and perhaps, their libertarian friends) would call it unjust to subject NCR offenders who have completed treatment and rehabilitation to any conditions. Hes not accountable for his crime in any way. On February 16, 2011, two of the passengers present during the attack filed a lawsuit against Vince Li, Greyhound, the RCMP, and the Government of Canada for being exposed to the horrific beheading. The killer was released from the high-security mental health facility in 2017. "But what would be unforgivable for me would be to not do anything to try to prevent this from happening again by the same perpetrator. INTERCONNECT FINDING YOUR PLACE, PURPOSE AND MEANING IN THE UNIVERSE. If you don't see it, please check your junk folder. When search suggestions are available use up and down arrows to review and enter to select. Im going to tell you the nearly unspeakable story of The Guy on the Greyhound Bus. A judge was was told at Li's trial four years ago that Li was an untreated schizophrenic. He fidgeted,starting a low Chinese chant. And indeed, it's easy when the scenarios are rather straightforward: don't fire someone because he or she suffers from depression;be patient with friends and family members who experience anxiety. Li pleaded the insanity defense, with his psychiatrist claiming that God told him McLean was evil. Over time, Lis marriage declined and they separated. Follow her on Twitter at: To encourage thoughtful and respectful conversations, first and last names will appear with each submission to CBC/Radio-Canada's online communities (except in children and youth-oriented communities). I've said it before and I'll say it again; fuck PETA. ELVIS PRESLEY WHAT REALLY KILLED THE KING OF ROCK N ROLL? Now Li had Tim on the aisle floor, still plunging and plunging. They got him to function in an apparently normal state and began testing his response to freedom by slowly integrating him back into society. Er um what Rona said. Nor was he taking any when he boarded the Greyhound bus. Maybe he moonlights as an actuary. Time does not erase or sanitize those facts. I actually knew his sister when living in Banff. Reddit's main subreddit for videos. "Kill them, or I'll kill you.". There were plenty. Presence of mind from the driver prevented Lis escape into the crowd. Cpl. This isn't a call to have every person who suffers from mental illness monitored forever by law enforcement; but after someone has committed such a violent, traumatic act, he or she shouldn't ever be completely "free.". There, he spent the night on a bench outside a grocery store. The Wikipedia page says that Greyhound was named in a $150K lawsuit by the family. Also got to legally change his name after being released as well. Baker sat next to 22-year-old. In his mind, he and his trusty buck knife had just slain a demon. By submitting a comment, you accept that CBC has the right to reproduce and publish that comment in whole or in part, in any manner CBC chooses. The innocent and unsuspecting victim was Tim McLean, 22, a carnival worker heading home for a break. Last week, a Criminal Code review board decided that Li can start having escorted trips off the hospital grounds and into the nearby city of Selkirk. Tim McLean Murder (Vince Li) | Mental Health & Personality Dr. Todd Grande 1.17M subscribers Dislike Share 65,410 views Nov 20, 2020 This video answers the question: Can I discuss the mental. Bit by bit, Vince Li was put back on the street. The mother of a man who was beheaded and cannibalized on a Greyhound bus is criticizing a decision to grant complete freedom to the man who committed the violent crime. On July 30, 2008, when Vince Li killed and dismembered Tim McLean on a Greyhound bus, he truly believed that he had just saved the world; that he had been sent by God to kill a demon that threatened not only his own life but also the lives of others. It could not have ended any uglier. (CBS/AP) WINNIPEG, Manitoba - Vince Li, the man who beheaded and cannibalized a fellow passenger on a Greyhound bus in Canada, has won the right to be allowed to leave the grounds of the mental. Little is known about his early life, but he did graduate from the Wuhan Institute of Technology and acquired a job as a computer software engineer. Warehouse Li, they agreed. McLean had his eyes closed and was listening to music on his headphones when Li suddenly stood up and started stabbing him. WHO REALLY MURDERED AND MUTILATED THE BLACK DAHLIA? First published on May 18, 2012 / 11:48 AM. Li also boarded the bus a short time later. It causes one to lose contact with reality, and will often cause one to experience hallucinations and delusions that the individual will believe with absolute certainty are real and true. 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To many, it won't seem "right" that someone has to check in with the legal system forever just because he or she suffers from an illness and committed a crime, but at the same time, it's arguably worse to assume that everything is fine, to shrug off whatever act landed the individual in the justicesystem in the first place, and to blindly trust that he or she won't decide one day that medication is no longer needed. The Guy on the Greyhound Bus got international attention. McLean was Vince Li's victim. Lost contact with her when this happened. Around 8:30 pm, Greyhound 1170 was an hour west of Winnipeg on the . Li had one brush with police for peculiar behavior. Thats the flaw in the judiciary/psychiatric system. 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This means that someone must literally commit the act of the crime, and they must also be in a state of mind to consciously and willfully intend to do so, in order to be found guilty. Its too high a risk. We encountered an issue signing you up. An Ontario father has become an advocate for people designated "not criminally responsible" after his daughter was nearly stabbed to death in 1999. But the biggest sufferers were Tim McLeans family. Tim McLean was an innocent young man. "I think for the advancement of my own being my own soul, I will have to come to a place of accepting," Carol DeDelley, McLean's mother, said Tuesday. He was in the wrong place at the wrong time and a victim of circumstances much like the pedestrian creamed in a crosswalk by a drunk. Published in Volume 71, Number 21 of The Uniter (February 22, 2017). On Greyhound 1170, Vincent Li, a diagnosed schizophrenic, sat beside young 22 year old McLean and then, obeying voices inside his head, repeatedly stabbed and decapitated him. Now, a passenger across the aisle saw Lis behavior change. On March 5, 2009, a Manitoba court found Vince Li not criminally responsible for the horrific death of Tim McLean on a Greyhound bus seven months earlier. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Li held minimal paying jobs at Walmart and did paper deliveries. He then decapitated him and proceeded to mutilate and cannibalize his body, eating his eyes and part of his heart. Li, who has since changed his name to Will Baker, said he heard the voice of God telling him to decapitate and cannibalizeMcLean, a fellow passenger who Libelieved was an alien. No one in authority listened to what impact this brutal murder had on Tims family and friends, not to mention traumatized witnesses on the bus. As the bus pulled out of the stop, he moved to the back, to the vacant seat next to McLean. The Vince LiTim McLean case is no exception. This case opened a Pandoras Box containing the issue of long-term criminal responsibility by the mentally ill. There are extensive videos and transcripts available on hours and hours of a forensic psychiatrist interviewing Li and trying to get inside his head. Tim McLean sat on the passenger side by the window. He was found not criminally responsible. Please note that CBC does not endorse the opinions expressed in comments. Now that Vince Li understands what hes capable of when he goes off his medication, why on earth would he want to do that? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. DID MARILYN MONROE REALLY COMMIT SUICIDE? HAS MADELEINE MCCANNS MURDERER FINALLY BEEN CAUGHT? This video answers the question: Can I discuss the mental health and personality factors that may be at work in the Tim McLean murder case? Its also about whats wrong with a broken criminal justice (legal) system and the strange world of forensic psychiatry. The Criminal Code Review Board said Vince Li's treatment team may grant him short escorted trips into the central Canadian city of Selkirk, Manitoba. It does remain existentially true that Vince Li could go off his medication. "I understand people are scared because of my behavior on the Greyhound bus. Since then I have been unable to think of July 30, 2008 with hatred in my heart only an unquantifiable sadness. Ratheras shocked, gasping witnesses describedLi robotically plunged the blade into Tims shoulders, neck and chest. I would ask forgiveness, but I know it would be hard to accept," Summerville quoted Li as saying. It is a priority for CBC to create products that are accessible to all in Canada including people with visual, hearing, motor and cognitive challenges. From 1994-1998, Li worked in Beijing as a computer software engineer. On 5 March 2009, his killer, the 40-year-old Vincent Weiguang Li ( Chinese: ; pinyin: L Wigung ), [1] was found not criminally responsible for murder and remanded to a high-security mental health facility in Selkirk, Manitoba, where he was detained until his release on 8 May 2015. Tim was clearly dead but Li wasnt even close to finished. He tried to fight back. THE BIZARRE DEATH OF THE TOXIC LADY GLORIA RAMIREZ, WHY FIFTY SHADES IS PHENOMENALLY POPULAR WITH (some) WOMEN. They told investigators and profilers exactly what they wanted to hear. Visit us online, and feel free to reach out with your questions or ideas by going to arslonga.media. There was an error, please provide a valid email address. WHO REALLY KIDNAPPED AND KILLED CHARLES LINDBERGHS CHILD? After six years, Li was released in 2015. Vince Li, the man who beheaded Tim McLean on a Greyhound bus in 2008, was given an unconditional discharge resulting in a call for more education on mental health issues. DID LIZZIE BORDEN REALLY AX-MURDER HER PARENTS? THE CANADIAN PRESS/Trevor Hagan ORG XMIT: WPGT101, Will Baker, formerly known as Vince Li, leaves the Law Courts building in Winnipeg, after his annual criminal code review board hearing, on Monday, February 6, 2017. Unauthorized distribution, transmission or republication strictly prohibited. Since Li only killed one victim, the term "M.O" is somewhat misused. Li now looked for an opportunity to use them. Hear about the horrific bond between two of the most high-profile Canadian killings: the Brentwood Five massacre and the Greyhound bus beheading. SIMPSON GOT OFF MURDER, STEPHEN KINGS SURPRISINGLY SIMPLE SECRET TO SUCCESS, BEYOND THE LIMITS NEW BASED-ON-TRUE-CRIME SERIES BOOK RELEASE, HYBRISTOPHILIA THE BONNIE & CLYDE SYNDROME. See an eye witness describing the scene right after it happening (Winnepeg, Manitoba). Now ask yourself if this individual would really ever consider going off his medication? WHATS YOUR EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE QUOTIENT (E-IQ) SCORE? Li was ultimately deemed not guilty by reason of insanity and sent to the Selkirk Mental Health Centre. The Guy On The Greyhound Bus was Vince Weiguang Li, a 40-year-old Chinese immigrant to Canada who left Edmonton, Alberta eastbound for Winnipeg in the Province of Manitoba. Li might be a small player in the world of murders but hes not unusual. Get browser notifications for breaking news, live events, and exclusive reporting. Now that he has received an absolute discharge, the legal checks and balances that once kept his demons at bay have disappeared, and that poses risks for society, writes Robyn Urback. Article content. Li was born on April 30, 1968 in Dandong, China . Two years later, he began unsupervised leave from the hospital but only for short periods. Li wanted a victim and Tim McLean was it. Hed also been injured in his attackstandard police procedure even for as bizarre a crime as this. First published on May 23, 2012 / 9:51 AM. McLean was murdered by Vince Li in 2008.Support Dr. Grande on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/drgrandeAmerican Psychiatric Association. One of the officers who responded to the attack suffered from PTSD and later committed suicide. As the bus stopped and horrified passengers fled, Li carved up McLean's body, ate portions of it, and displayed the victim's head to some passengers outside the bus. IS MISSING MALAYSIA AIRLINES FLIGHT 370 A MASS MURDER? Please enter valid email address to continue. The board said the passes should only be granted if Li's treatment team believes his condition is stable and that it would be "appropriate and safe for him to leave the locked ward." Today, Vince Li is a free man. When a court deems an offender "not criminally responsible" (NCR), it accepts that a crime was committed under these sorts of conditions. It's so terrifying to me, that he was just sleeping against the window, something literally anyone in that spot would do. ELISA LAMS GHASTLY DEATH AT THE NOTORIOUS CECIL HOTEL IN L.A. On the other hand, convicting someone for an act that they had no conscious knowledge or control over would be barbaric, and in Canada, we dont punish people for doing something they have no control over. WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT PERSONAL DNA TESTING. After a day-long stand-off, Li finally attempted to escape the bus through a window, but was tasered and arrested. After he was deemed NCR, he was sent to the Selkirk Mental Health Centre for treatment. The Guy On The Greyhound Bus was Vince Weiguang Li, a 40-year-old Chinese immigrant to Canada who left Edmonton, Alberta eastbound for Winnipeg in the Province of Manitoba. Im a retired Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) Serious Crimes detective and investigator with the British Columbia Coroners Service. Vincent Weiguang "Vince" Li is a Chinese-Canadian man who, on July 30, 2008, brutally killed and cannibalized a 22-year old Canadian man Timothy Richard "Tim" McLean, Jr.. After being apprehended following a 1-day stand-off, Li was found not guilty by reason of insanity and spent six years in a mental hospital before being released in 2015. When he realized the true magnitude of the horrible and grotesque things he had done, because his brain had lied to him. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/vince-li-discharge-1.3977278. After the judge's ruling, Li was placed in a locked wing of the Selkirk Mental Health Centre. A schizophrenic man who beheaded and cannibalized a fellow passenger on a Greyhound bus could know later this week whether he will be granted his freedom. This advertisement has not loaded yet, but your article continues below. Vince Li is a member of Vimeo, the home for high quality videos and the people who love them. Read more about cookies here. Bus passengers were severely traumatized. By continuing to use our site, you agree to our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy. A schizophrenic man who beheaded and cannibalized a fellow passenger on a Greyhound bus could know later this week whether he will be granted his freedom. Many of us like to think of ourselves as progressive thinkers on mental health, proudly tweeting #BellLetsTalk to try to erase the stigma around mental illness. Throughout the trial, Li only asked to be killed several times. Two of them and the driver attempted to save McLean, but Li chased them away with the knife. McLean, a 22-year-old Canadian man, was stabbed, beheaded, and cannibalized while riding a Greyhound Canada bus along the Trans-Canada Highway, about 30 km (19 mi) west of Portage la Prairie, Manitoba. Please try again. Carol de Delley is Tim McLeans mother. He proceeded to dismember, decapitate, and cannibalize McLean's body while everyone else fled the bus and police arrived. SUN DANCE WHY CUSTER REALLY LOST THE BATTLE OF THE LITTLE BIGHORN, JOSEPH WAMBAUGH INTERVIEWING CRIME WRITINGS MASTER OF CHARACTERS, MISTER BIG UNDERCOVER STING CONVICTS ANOTHER COLD CASE KILLER, GET YOUR EROTIC BDSM KINKS AT THE SOUTHWEST LEATHER CONFERENCE, AMAZON FREE E-BOOK NEW YEARS PROMOTION NO LIFE UNTIL DEATH BY GARRY RODGERS, MERRY CHRISTMAS & WHATSUP FOR 2019 WITH GARRY RODGERS WRITING, THE ASTOUNDING SECRET BEHIND LEONARDO DA VINCIS CREATIVE GENIUS, UNCONVENTIONAL CRIME WRITING WITH L.A. 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The treatment team for Vince Li, the man found not criminally responsible for killing and butchering Tim McLean aboard a Greyhound bus nearly eight years ago, is recommending he be formally. Not only did he have the knifehe also had plastic bags to store separated itemspackaging pieces for some future purpose. THE PSYCHO-BATES MOTEL ON VANCOUVER ISLAND, THE MOOSE HIDE CAMPAIGNENDING VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN & CHILDREN. Press J to jump to the feed. Li was controlled and they adjusted his medication. Imagine you're standing in a crowded public place a playground, a movie theatre, a grocery store when all of a sudden, you feel someone press something into your ribs. He removed Tims heart, lungs and liver then ripped out entrails. Summerville released an edited transcript of the interview to the media Tuesday, in which he and Li discuss the night of July 30, 2008, when Li sat on a bus next to McLean that was traveling on a desolate stretch of the TransCanada Highway bound for Winnipeg. 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